March 21, 2003

When do we get a real RSS Standard?

Given my previous post about the difference between a specification and a real standard, when will we get a proper STANDARD for RSS?

I don't think any of the versions of RSS qualify as anything like real standards, using my rule-of-thumb guidelines:

Real standards are:

  • Published by a recognised standards development organization (SDO)
  • Created through a process that allows public comment and feedback
  • Agreed and approved by a committee or group consisting of wide and diverse membership
  • Published at a final or definitive status, such as "W3C Recommendation"
  • Publicly available for reference - most usually by publication on the Internet.

Even the RSS v1.0 specification which was created by the RSS-DEV group does not seem to meet some of these criteria to quality as a real standard (especially the SDO angle), and certainly none of the other versions of RSS do.

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Posted by Jorgen Thelin at March 21, 2003 11:00 AM - [PermaLink]
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Standards versus Standards
Excerpt: - Jorgen Thelin's weblog: When do we get a real RSS Standard? Jorgen Thelin: I don't think any of the versions of RSS qualify as anything like real standards,
Weblog: Bill de hÓra
Tracked: March 25, 2003 12:57 AM
Would the real RSS stand up
Excerpt: Jorgen has a checklist, and argues that RSS 1.0 isn't a real standard because it fails his test of being
Weblog: Raw Blog
Tracked: March 25, 2003 09:22 AM
Real standards and RSS
Tracked: March 25, 2003 03:47 PM
RSS standardization (again)
Excerpt: Jorgen hits a subject that's of great interest to me; RSS standardization. I originally started the Syndication list to get
Weblog: mnot's weblog
Tracked: March 26, 2003 05:08 AM
RSS and the RESTian Dilema
Excerpt: There we where thinking we had some agreement on the RSS format and had achieved some convergence and stability at the 2.0 level, then this happens! So, what have Don and Sam created? Is it RSS v4.0, or RSS 2.0+xhtml:body, or what? - and how exactly d...
Weblog: - Jorgen Thelin's weblog
Tracked: March 30, 2003 03:48 AM
Changing the Information Landscape with RSS
Excerpt: Magnus Hultberg sent us this link to a case study from NewsGator. It's very interesting since it's about using weblogs and RSS streams to " reduce the amount of information ‘hunt and peck’ that currently goes on, thus increasing productivity...
Weblog: - Unstructured Information Management
Tracked: July 2, 2003 10:04 PM
Perhaps you have to change your idea of what a standard is, or perhaps RSS isn't a standard, maybe it's just a format. Posted by: Dave Winer on March 25, 2003 12:01 PM
But I want RSS to be a "standard format", Dave! Posted by: Jorgen Thelin on March 25, 2003 01:11 PM
I posted a follow on item about "Real Standards and RSS" here: Posted by: Jorgen Thelin on March 25, 2003 03:42 PM
Well Jorgen, as the Rolling Stones used to sing: "You can't always get what you want." The rest of the song went: "But if you try sometimes. You just might find. You just might find. You get what you need." Great philosophers. Great philosophy. Basically the universe doesn't revolve around your wants. Posted by: Dave Winer on March 25, 2003 05:31 PM
Update 18-April-2003: An Internet-Draft of RSS 2.0 has been produced - more details here. Posted by: Jorgen Thelin on April 18, 2003 08:29 PM